Talk:Snakehead (fish)

Hell Breaks Loose?

It says "On the TV series River Monsters, Jeremy Wade shows footage of a snakehead attacking an unsuspecting baby and chihuahua. Hell breaks loose."" The hell breaks loose part doesn't sound very professional to me. --KnowledgeBringsFear 02:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KnowledgeBringsFear (talk • contribs)

Early comments

is there any real justification for including the onion graphic? i am going to remove it soon if there is not. mnemonic 12:00, 2004 Jul 6 --165.139.44.59 (talk) 15:48, 24 January 2008 (UTC)--165.139.44.59 (talk) 15:48, 24 January 2008 (UTC)jkwat ana ass is (UTC)

We can't keep it. It's very funny, but this is an encyclopedia, not a jokebook. I also don't think the fair use argument washes - the graphic is the whole joke, not an excerpt. Stan 12:42, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I am very disappointed that no one has mentioned that this fish can kill people. I took the liberty of adding it in, although not very professionaly.

Question: Very intersting artile, but I would be interested in learning more about the odontology of this species. Just how many teeth are we talking about here -- a few or tens or scores? Does it vary? Are they in rows? Etc. -alex

Snakehead removal with Peroxide?

I was curious about the removal of Snakeheads. They said in the article in the article that using Rodeo or Roundup. That said something about less dissolved oxygen. In that case would putting a large amount of Hydrogen Peroxide kill them as well? It should be better the environment to do as it's not generally toxic. Here's the articles on using Hydrogen Peroxide in fish tanks as a way to kill bacteria and algae on plants. (It also can kill plants in fish if not done at the correct amount.) http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com/aquainfo/algae_peroxide.html http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T4D-4JDN69Y-X&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=7688903bd7681d0d556715a021e5b71c Does this seem viable to anyone else? Just curious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.240.84 (talk) 16:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

The "removal" section looks like a joke or farse comedy. It actually describes how to totally anihilate life from the ecosystem we are trying to protect from the invasive species and then it states that among all the genocided creatures the snakehead has the best chance to recover. Some common sense please?--92.118.191.48 (talk) 02:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Channiformes

In my creation of the article Eochanna, my research told me that Channidae is a member of the order Channiformes, not Perciformes. Sounds logical to me. See these links:

• http://paleodb.org/cgi-bin/bridge.pl?action=checkTaxonInfo&taxon_no=66476&is_real_user=1

The Paleobiology Database]

• http://www.bioone.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1671%2F0272-4634(2008)28[41%3AEAFFPW]2.0.CO%3B2&ct=1&SESSID=fc976bfedf58bc5181d1fd352f0a910b

Eocene Actinopterygian Fishes from Pakistan, with the Description of a New Genus and Species of Channid (Channiformes)

Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 19:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Spoke too soon:

"Nelson (1994, 2006) does not use the ordinal name Channiformes, but rather Suborder Channoidei (TSN 162835), placed within Order Perciformes (TSN 167640)" Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 19:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

National Geographic

Word-for-word plagiarism of National Geographic Channel's 2007 documentary, 'Fishzilla: Snakehead Invasion':

"Out of the water Snakeheads rhythmically move their fins and muscular bodies back and forth: the fish equivalent of walking. It is a resourceful adaptation; in their native Asia they must survive both wet and dry weather cycles like monsoons and droughts.

Snakeheads can breathe air unlike other fish as they use a primitive lung above their gills -air chambers" - comment by Mouserue (talk · contribs) on 28 June 2008.

Moved to this new section in an attempt to organize this page. -Colfer2 (talk) 15:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I attempted a cleanup. Haven't had time to watch the video source, but I made it a direct quote and added more refs. -Colfer2 (talk) 15:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I watched the online version of the video. About five paragraphs were direct quotes. I edited the article to reflect that. May need more work. -Colfer2 (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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fish

if it has lungs its not a fish —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke12345abcd (talk • contribs) 19:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is. For example the Lungfish can breathe air and it is most definitely a fish. Quietpopcorn (talk) 16:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello to all

If you have information about sex determine in channa striatus bloch please add to site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.170.57.251 (talk) 03:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Snakehead caught in North Carolina in April 2009

This newspaper article in The Charlotte Observer talks about a snakehead caught in Lake Wylie: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/breaking/story/679791.html I don't know how, if, or where to use it in the article. Jdmaloney (talk) 20:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Confused

The second sentence is confusing and conflicting.

These predatory fishes are distinguished by a long, sensual dorsal fin, small head with large head, large mouth and shiny teeth.

I'm not sure how it should read so I left it alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.45.180.53 (talk) 04:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Major Rewrite

Well, not really so major. I have edited the article for logical and temporal order, retaining almost all content, except for some of the Nat Geo Channel quote, which was redundant. μηδείς (talk) 00:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Removal Methods

I'm wondering "their physiological need to breathe atmospheric air" is the way to remove them from selected areas. Would it be possible to "poison" the atmospheric air or prevent them from reaching it? By poison, I mean exchange out the oxygen with helium or another friendly gas. By prevent them from reaching it, I mean covering the surface in a way to prevent them from breathing the atmospheric air. They would either drown or expire from not getting any oxygen in the air they breath. The regular fish would continue to breath, as they get their oxygen from the water not the atmosphere. It would mean containing the fish in an area in three dimensions till dead and then moving to the next area. --Bmoshier (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Any attempt to "poison" the atmosphere over a large area, such as a pond, lake or river, is doomed to fail. First, you'd need phenomenal amounts of a "friendly" gas, helium would simply float away, as it's lighter than air. CO2 might be conceivable, save for that vast amount I mentioned previously. It would be far more practical to research known parasites/pathogens for the fish and isolate a species that won't harm our indigenous species.Wzrd1 (talk) 17:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Snakeheads

These Snakeheads can sometimes weigh up to 20 kilos and can easily eat up a 2 year old child.They can live without water for a max. of 4 days. There were 2 cases where humans were attacked by them.there bite is also said to be poisnous. The largest one is the northern snakehead. They are also called Devilfish. They are complete monstors. Please..... if you catch them then don't let them into the water.......you can eat them, kill and sell on ice but please Do not leave them back in water

          Aditya Singh
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                    59.161.185.129 (talk) 15:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

A teen was bitten in Maryland with no ill effects. Their bite is not poisonous, only moderately (for a small child) injurious. They are not monsters, merely an unwanted species that IS tasty (I've eaten them before). But, I agree, never introduce foreign species into your waterways, it unbalances your ecosystem.Wzrd1 (talk) 17:58, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

thrust-feeders?

The article states that "Snakeheads are thrust-feeders", what is a thrust-feeder? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 09:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Probably synonymous with ambush predator.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 11:25, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

From 13:53, 30 April 2008, the article used to say "When the Snakehead eats it is a thrust predator. It will eat its prey all at once, striking and inhaling it whole" this was later altered from "inhaling" to "ingesting" on 21 August 2008, the "...eat its prey all at once, striking and ingesting it whole" explanation of thrust predator was removed on 8 February 2011. There is mention of thrust predator in the related Parachanna africana Wikipedia article, but the term doesn't appear to be widely used on the Web. Is it me, but doesn't Thrust Predator sound like a Heavy metal band? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 12:48, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

LOL, it does, but then again, so does 'Snakehead' ;) And yeah, can't find any evidence of wide usage either. -- Obsidi♠n Soul 12:53, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I believe Snakehead are more Blues oriented, whereas Thrust Predator are tending towards Thrash metal. DynamoDegsy (talk) 12:58, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I feel the "thrust-feeder" definition is a bit cryptic. I'm into fish and fishing. I came and read the article and had never heard of the term before. When I attempted to reference the term, I got only this article or derivatives as hits. I don't think a wikipedia entry should have provincial terminology that dead ends, even if it might be technically correct among some group somewhere. well, unless there were no other way to express the idea concerned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.160.237.113 (talk) 13:05, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Maryland fish bounty

Perhaps we should mention that the State of Maryland has established a drawing based on fishers catching and killing these fish. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/05/maryland-puts-gift-card-bounty-on-fish-from-hell/ Drewder (talk) 17:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Byword for "Monster" In Popular Culture?

I'm going to be bold and delete an uncited statement in the opening. If we want to claim that this fishes name is commonly used in place of "monster" then it needs to be cited! 75.95.47.110 (talk) 18:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

other Wiki entries "Snakehead"

I don't know how to create those disambiguation pages. There are other entries for Snakehead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakehead --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 21:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Banner picture missing

I'd just like to call attention to the banner picture being "nonexistant" as far as I can tell on my device and the image summary. I'm unsure how to upload pictures without an account but I was able to find many usable alternatives on Google Images by searching "snakehead". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.220.229 (talk) 21:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure what happened, probably someone changed the name or deleted the alias. The old image is still at wikimedia, but I have put a new image of a live specimen. μηδείς (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Only "possibly" established in Florida

In south Florida snake head roundups have become common due to the invasive damage they do to the waterways. They've been sponsored as tournaments by both cities and drainage districts alike.

Here is an article from one city in Broward County:

http://margatenews.net/7459/69141/a/summer-snakehead-tourneys-good-sport-good-eatin-good-for-the-environment — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:805F:AF0:5C20:7D55:7662:9D65 (talk) 18:15, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

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2 things.

1. In the popular culture section, someone slipped in "Wayne becomes affected by the slime from the snakefish and begins hallucinating." (from a TV show). Do you mean "snakehead"? Is this an attribute of some/all species of snakehead, like the protective mechanisms of a hagfish and Sonoran Desert toad combined? Or is it a completely fictional plot point? Please clarify.

2. This may be self-evident, but why is this fishy family called "snakehead" in the first place? It doe not look very snakey to me in the pictures. Is it because of their teeth or the wriggling ambulation on land? I am curious.

Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 06:53, 13 August 2023 (UTC)